As with many others in the music business, Cooper argues that safe harbor laws (which spare companies from liability for content their users upload) have “hindered” musicians on YouTube. Users could still post bootleg songs even if there was no deal at all, the CEO argues. Warner isn’t necessarily going to cut the licensing deals short, but it clearly feels as though it was strong-armed into a sub-par agreement that lets pirates run amok.

YouTube isn’t saying too much about the nature of the deal, although it tells Recode that it’s “pleased” to have renewed its deals. It stresses how much money it has paid to labels (over $1 billion between November 2015 and December 2016) and that this is key to expanding the global reach of YouTube Red. With that said, it’s likely thanking its lucky stars that it hired former Warner exec Lyor Cohen as its music lead. Although we might never know how negotiations went down, it wouldn’t be surprising if Cohen’s deep connections to the music industry helped him keep Warner around when it would have otherwise been tempted to jump ship.